Saturday, July 29, 2006
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You Wanna know what blogs do, they bring the impossible/ the improbabble together.
following thread from myspace
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Jul 17, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: re:message from lebanon
Body: I'm etremely upset about the whole thing
and would like to show my support at civilians.
Some of us do not agree with Israeli policy
neither do we support Bush and the Israeli-American Co-dependency.
I fear that this was planned a long time ago as
a media spin opportinity, to (U.S.) continue and invade neighboring countries.
Uri Avnery wrote about it today in Maariv
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/450/418.html
(hebrew)
S.
----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: U U U U
Date: Jul 16, 2006 12:26 PM
Here is a report from my friend Bilal in Lebanon (he is Lebanese). I've been worried about him -- so glad to hear he is okay. The situation is causing me much grief and distress...
ww
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From Beirut
July 16
Hi everyone. First of all, I am fine as are
family and friends. We're scattered in different
places, some still in the south, some in Tyre,
the rest in Beirut and its surroundings. Those
who live in the southern suburbs where Hizbullah
is based managed to leave before the latest
strikes and are safe with relatives.
As most of you know, Hizbullah carried out a bold
operation a few days ago and managed to capture
two Israeli soldiers. The resistance has been
saying for quite some time now that it intends to
free the remaining Lebanese prisoners in Israel,
most prominently Samir Qantar. Dubbed the "dean
of the prisoners," Qantar is the longest serving
Arab prisoner in Israel. He was to be released
along with other Lebanese prisoners in a swap
between Hizbullah and Israel. The Israeli
government voted not to release him and two
others and stupidly kept the prisoner file open.
The Hizbullah operation was an attempt to put an
end to the matter. There were several previous
unsuccessful attempts that were costly to the
resistance. This operation according to
Nasrallah, the general-secretary of Hizbullah,
was months in planning and its timing, which has
been endlessly criticized, may have been logistical
more than anything else.
In light of Israel's ferocious response, it is
worth noting that the capture of the two Israeli
soldiers was a pure military operation and did
not as much scratch an Israeli civilian. Israel's
counter is exactly the oppositecollective
punishment of the civilian population by
destroying the country's infrastructure and
committing ugly massacres against families and
fleeing refugees as they did yesterday in the
south. Who's the terrorist in this case, even by
the self-serving definitions peddled in Washington.
Why did Hizbullah do this, did they not know that
Israel would respond this way. I'm certain that
they considered this scenario as one of several.
But Hizbullah's two decades of experience in
dealing with Israel have taught it one thing and
that is Tel Aviv will never budge on any matter
without threat of force. Israel was compelled to
leave southern Lebanon in May 2000after over 20
years of occupationonly after the resistance
gained the upper hand militarily.
The consequent prisoner swap in which nearly all
Lebanese prisoners in Israel were released was
only possible once Hizbullah managed to capture
Israeli soldiers and offer them in exchange. As
Nasrallah put it, the recent operation was the
only logical conclusion given Hizbullah long
experience with Israel. To get the remaining
prisoners out, Israeli soldiers must be
capturedIsrael simply offered no other option.
The current situation only confirms Hizbullah's
experience. The whole worldand most painfully
the Arab governmentshave refused to lift a
finger to restrain Israel. The UN met and decided
to do nothing, yesterday the Arab League met and
was even more insulting. The Lebanese government
has yet to act, besides denouncing Hizbullah and
distancing themselves from the resistance--not
even providing the most basic services to the displaced
and injured.
The Arab League meeting and statements by the
Lebanese prime minister suggest that there is a
convergence of interests between them and Israel
over putting a halt to the Lebanese resistance by
disarming Hizbullah and burying once and for all
those forces in the region, including Hamas for
example, that believe in a line of confrontation
with Israel as the only road to get some
semblance of justice. The Saudi royals and their
slavish counterparts in Jordan and Egypt, want
Arabs to submit and swallow the humiliation we
are subjected to daily in Iraq, Palestine and
Lebanon, all in the name of stability and rational
thinking.
Since 1993 and the signing of the Oslo Accords,
the Arab leaders, the US and the UN have been
saying that negotiations and normalization with
Israel are the only way to peace. But we have yet
to see Israel make the smallest concession,
taking the opportunity to swallow up yet more
land, butcher the Palestinian people and continue
to imprison thousand. Hamas' election was but one
indicator that ordinary Arabs have understood
that successive peace accords have brought them
nothing but further miseryonly resistance, with
all the suffering that comes with it, bears fruit.
Like the Palestinians, the Lebanese are all
alone, abandoned to be taught a lesson by the
regional and global powers. Hizbullah's
incredible response (striking a war ship and
bombing as far as Haifa) shows that they perhaps
considered and prepared for Israel's ferocious
response. Only their ability to strike back
effectively can save Lebanon from complete
destruction at the hands of Israelthe lunatics
in Tel Aviv know no other language.
-Bilal El-Amine
www.leftturn.org | www.ideasforaction.org ¶ 9:48 AM
following thread from myspace
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jul 17, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: re:message from lebanon
Body: I'm etremely upset about the whole thing
and would like to show my support at civilians.
Some of us do not agree with Israeli policy
neither do we support Bush and the Israeli-American Co-dependency.
I fear that this was planned a long time ago as
a media spin opportinity, to (U.S.) continue and invade neighboring countries.
Uri Avnery wrote about it today in Maariv
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/450/418.html
(hebrew)
S.
----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: U U U U
Date: Jul 16, 2006 12:26 PM
Here is a report from my friend Bilal in Lebanon (he is Lebanese). I've been worried about him -- so glad to hear he is okay. The situation is causing me much grief and distress...
ww
---------------
From Beirut
July 16
Hi everyone. First of all, I am fine as are
family and friends. We're scattered in different
places, some still in the south, some in Tyre,
the rest in Beirut and its surroundings. Those
who live in the southern suburbs where Hizbullah
is based managed to leave before the latest
strikes and are safe with relatives.
As most of you know, Hizbullah carried out a bold
operation a few days ago and managed to capture
two Israeli soldiers. The resistance has been
saying for quite some time now that it intends to
free the remaining Lebanese prisoners in Israel,
most prominently Samir Qantar. Dubbed the "dean
of the prisoners," Qantar is the longest serving
Arab prisoner in Israel. He was to be released
along with other Lebanese prisoners in a swap
between Hizbullah and Israel. The Israeli
government voted not to release him and two
others and stupidly kept the prisoner file open.
The Hizbullah operation was an attempt to put an
end to the matter. There were several previous
unsuccessful attempts that were costly to the
resistance. This operation according to
Nasrallah, the general-secretary of Hizbullah,
was months in planning and its timing, which has
been endlessly criticized, may have been logistical
more than anything else.
In light of Israel's ferocious response, it is
worth noting that the capture of the two Israeli
soldiers was a pure military operation and did
not as much scratch an Israeli civilian. Israel's
counter is exactly the oppositecollective
punishment of the civilian population by
destroying the country's infrastructure and
committing ugly massacres against families and
fleeing refugees as they did yesterday in the
south. Who's the terrorist in this case, even by
the self-serving definitions peddled in Washington.
Why did Hizbullah do this, did they not know that
Israel would respond this way. I'm certain that
they considered this scenario as one of several.
But Hizbullah's two decades of experience in
dealing with Israel have taught it one thing and
that is Tel Aviv will never budge on any matter
without threat of force. Israel was compelled to
leave southern Lebanon in May 2000after over 20
years of occupationonly after the resistance
gained the upper hand militarily.
The consequent prisoner swap in which nearly all
Lebanese prisoners in Israel were released was
only possible once Hizbullah managed to capture
Israeli soldiers and offer them in exchange. As
Nasrallah put it, the recent operation was the
only logical conclusion given Hizbullah long
experience with Israel. To get the remaining
prisoners out, Israeli soldiers must be
capturedIsrael simply offered no other option.
The current situation only confirms Hizbullah's
experience. The whole worldand most painfully
the Arab governmentshave refused to lift a
finger to restrain Israel. The UN met and decided
to do nothing, yesterday the Arab League met and
was even more insulting. The Lebanese government
has yet to act, besides denouncing Hizbullah and
distancing themselves from the resistance--not
even providing the most basic services to the displaced
and injured.
The Arab League meeting and statements by the
Lebanese prime minister suggest that there is a
convergence of interests between them and Israel
over putting a halt to the Lebanese resistance by
disarming Hizbullah and burying once and for all
those forces in the region, including Hamas for
example, that believe in a line of confrontation
with Israel as the only road to get some
semblance of justice. The Saudi royals and their
slavish counterparts in Jordan and Egypt, want
Arabs to submit and swallow the humiliation we
are subjected to daily in Iraq, Palestine and
Lebanon, all in the name of stability and rational
thinking.
Since 1993 and the signing of the Oslo Accords,
the Arab leaders, the US and the UN have been
saying that negotiations and normalization with
Israel are the only way to peace. But we have yet
to see Israel make the smallest concession,
taking the opportunity to swallow up yet more
land, butcher the Palestinian people and continue
to imprison thousand. Hamas' election was but one
indicator that ordinary Arabs have understood
that successive peace accords have brought them
nothing but further miseryonly resistance, with
all the suffering that comes with it, bears fruit.
Like the Palestinians, the Lebanese are all
alone, abandoned to be taught a lesson by the
regional and global powers. Hizbullah's
incredible response (striking a war ship and
bombing as far as Haifa) shows that they perhaps
considered and prepared for Israel's ferocious
response. Only their ability to strike back
effectively can save Lebanon from complete
destruction at the hands of Israelthe lunatics
in Tel Aviv know no other language.
-Bilal El-Amine
www.leftturn.org | www.ideasforaction.org ¶ 9:48 AM
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The funny (in a sarcastic way) part is that in Israel we say the same thing about them (the Lebanease/syrians/Iranians/Palestinians).
What wonders me is that if they the Hezbullah did take the current scenario as an option (and it WAS a VERY likely option due to the various incidents in which Israel didn't respond to the firing of Kayusha rockets to the northern part of Israel AFTER going out of Lebanon), it simply seems that Nassrallah and the Hezbullah simply doesn't mind that the whole of Lebanon will burn to the ground.
Having a country within a country in the south of Lebanon is not a normal situation and when a country is being shot at from the other side of the border of another country there is simply no way of NOT calling it a decleration of war.
What would Lebanon would do if Turkey or Syria would have started shooting spouradically at various targets within Lebanon?
What would any other european country would do?
I'm fairly sure that if Israel would have retaliated in the various other incidents that occured after leaving Lebanon in May 2000 (I think it was May) we probably wouldn't have come down to this whole mess.
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What wonders me is that if they the Hezbullah did take the current scenario as an option (and it WAS a VERY likely option due to the various incidents in which Israel didn't respond to the firing of Kayusha rockets to the northern part of Israel AFTER going out of Lebanon), it simply seems that Nassrallah and the Hezbullah simply doesn't mind that the whole of Lebanon will burn to the ground.
Having a country within a country in the south of Lebanon is not a normal situation and when a country is being shot at from the other side of the border of another country there is simply no way of NOT calling it a decleration of war.
What would Lebanon would do if Turkey or Syria would have started shooting spouradically at various targets within Lebanon?
What would any other european country would do?
I'm fairly sure that if Israel would have retaliated in the various other incidents that occured after leaving Lebanon in May 2000 (I think it was May) we probably wouldn't have come down to this whole mess.
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